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This makes me angry!

Here's the gist:

Remember the atheist buses, that went round the UK with the slogan "There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life"?

There are now Christian ones in response. I saw one in London, in fact. It read: "There definitely is a God. So join the Christian Party and enjoy your life."

And apparently there's going to be another couple of sets in London, one of which says: "There IS a God, BELIEVE. Don't worry and enjoy your life."


You want to know what makes me angry about this? The "atheist buses" had to put in a "probably" instead of saying "There is no God", because there was no verifiable proof of that claim and the Advertising Standards Authority wouldn't let them have that for that specific reason.

So...

wait...

hang on...

The "Christian buses" aren't bound by the same rule? Or *can* they actually provide concrete proof of the existence of a God? I missed that revelation.

I'm all for debate. I'm all for people airing their views - I liked the atheist buses because they were able to admit there's no proof either way, and I wouldn't mind the Christian ones if they said something similar. "There probably is a God" even, or to be precisely and perfectly accurate, "We believe there is a God". I have no issue with that.

But making a definite statement like that with no proof is just... Out of line. And should not have been allowed, if the atheist buses weren't allowed to.

*stamps foot*

NOT! GOOD!

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Date: 2009-03-17 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] absinthefairy88.livejournal.com
I'm glad someone agrees with me on this. No wonder I sort of have no faith.

That confused me too - did I miss the whole There is conclusive proof that God does exist story?

Cos you would think that would be a big thing considering all the things that are/have been done "In God's Name" throughout human history.

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Date: 2009-03-18 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cowgrrl.livejournal.com
I'd like some conclusive proof too. And how do we know that this supposed god is the Christian god anyway? What about all the other religions? Other beliefs? I'd rather see these on a bus:

There is an Easter Bunny

There is a Tooth Fairy

There is a Great Pumpkin

etc.

:-)

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Date: 2009-03-20 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laligin.livejournal.com
Yeah... I would have expected a big announcement and a certain upsurge in religious followings...

And though, as [livejournal.com profile] phantomreviewer says below (and the official letter of reply to my complaint says also XD) the one I saw was for a political party, so they can say whatever the hell they like.

Which is disturbing on another level. I was not aware that political advertising had no restrictions regarding lies and libel...

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Date: 2009-03-18 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tripartite.livejournal.com
I'm glad you're paying attention! :)

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Date: 2009-03-18 02:28 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] blackbird-song.livejournal.com
Oh, that's just dreadful! If I were a UK citizen, I'd be writing everyone I could about this. I hope that they are made to change their ways.

(Just how much privilege does the Archbishop of Canterbury have in government, these days? *curious and living under a rock*)

Catherine

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Date: 2009-03-20 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laligin.livejournal.com
XD I complained. And if the second set go through I shall complain again...

(And I have no idea... *living under another rock*)

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Date: 2009-03-18 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kel-reiley.livejournal.com
i am... rather comforted that it's not just my country that is crazy-religious
that's bad of me, isn't it?

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Date: 2009-03-20 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laligin.livejournal.com
XD That's perfectly understandable.

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Date: 2009-03-18 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phantomreviewer.livejournal.com
Having been involved in this debate over on 'antitheism' and 'atheism' and we've done some rather in depth complaining about it.

And, becuase the Christian Party is a political party the phrase 'There definitely is a God. So join the Christian Party and enjoy your life' is political propoganda and thus they are free to say what they like.

Whilst as the atheist buses are not connected to a party so were not able to say that 'There is no God'.

(Edit, whilst I don't believe in God, I know for a certainty that Dog's exist)

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Date: 2009-03-20 11:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laligin.livejournal.com
Dagnabbit. So how come politcal parties have no restrictions on them? That's all kinds of wrong...

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Date: 2009-03-20 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phantomreviewer.livejournal.com
Free rights of passage and all that. It's stupid on so many levels but we just can't complain about it because it's the 'law'

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Date: 2009-03-19 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] odangoinblack.livejournal.com
That makes me angry, too! I wish Christians would leave me alone. =(

It's like, so you're a Christian, and that is great for you. I'm a pagan (a mix of Buddhist/Taoist/Wiccan), and that is great for me. You go to your church and sing songs and praise God and I'll cast a cleansing spell on my apartment and meditate. I'll leave you be and you leave me be. STOP TRYING TO CONVERT ME AND SMASH YOUR BELIEFS IN MY FACE. I DID NOTHING TO YOU LEAVE ME ALONE.

Obviously I have had much experience with things such as this. xD

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Date: 2009-03-20 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laligin.livejournal.com
I'm sensing this may be something of a sore topic. ^_^' But yes, I know where you're coming from. If everybody could just leave everybody else to believe what they like, things would be a lot nicer. People who feel the need to try and convert others to their own ideas cause so many more problems...

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