And yet I continue. Feel free to tell me to knock it off.
Re #3: A couple of things.
I think that watching Gwen head down the same path Suzie took is not supposed to be hypocritical, in the yay, Suzie's dead/oh poor Gwen sense. I think it's actually supposed to make us feel *more* empathy for Suzie and understand her motivation more, given that Gwen appears warped by the same responsibilities *so quickly*. Like saying, look, if this ordinary woman who's only been on the team X short amount of time is having trouble flying right, can you *imagine* what someone who'd been second-in-command (and using the glove) for *years* would have gone through? The real question is whether Gwen can pull herself back from the brink like Suzie couldn't. And I find that really fascinating to watch.
As far as Owen vs. Jack and "talking" to them. I think it's true that the only one Gwen *talks* to is Jack. I think Owen and Gwen when they're together, pre or post sex, probably vent, bitch, gripe, whatever. But I don't get the sense that they really sit down and have meaningful discussion like Gwen does with Jack. They're different sorts of relationships and she seems, to me, to value them very differently. I'm not sure, for instance, that if it were Owen who could come back from the dead, that Gwen would have spent three days waiting for him, because they don't have that sort of connection. If that makes sense.
Re #4: I think you're right. I think she *is* (or was) too involved and too emotional. I think that's a lot of the reason why she changes throughout the course of the series (and, frankly, why people find themselves disliking her in later episodes). Because she does get worked up and involved and compassionate about these cases and that sort of committment, constantly, will run you ragged and wear you down, unless you learn how now to care so deeply. But teaching yourself to detach and not care when that's not your natural state, so to speak, means that you're going to make huge, messy mistakes, screw up with people you really *do* care about (i.e. Rhys) because you haven't figured out where the line between engaged/detached is, and you're going to fall and have to pick yourself up a lot.
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Date: 2007-08-07 03:38 pm (UTC)Re #3: A couple of things.
I think that watching Gwen head down the same path Suzie took is not supposed to be hypocritical, in the yay, Suzie's dead/oh poor Gwen sense. I think it's actually supposed to make us feel *more* empathy for Suzie and understand her motivation more, given that Gwen appears warped by the same responsibilities *so quickly*. Like saying, look, if this ordinary woman who's only been on the team X short amount of time is having trouble flying right, can you *imagine* what someone who'd been second-in-command (and using the glove) for *years* would have gone through? The real question is whether Gwen can pull herself back from the brink like Suzie couldn't. And I find that really fascinating to watch.
As far as Owen vs. Jack and "talking" to them. I think it's true that the only one Gwen *talks* to is Jack. I think Owen and Gwen when they're together, pre or post sex, probably vent, bitch, gripe, whatever. But I don't get the sense that they really sit down and have meaningful discussion like Gwen does with Jack. They're different sorts of relationships and she seems, to me, to value them very differently. I'm not sure, for instance, that if it were Owen who could come back from the dead, that Gwen would have spent three days waiting for him, because they don't have that sort of connection. If that makes sense.
Re #4: I think you're right. I think she *is* (or was) too involved and too emotional. I think that's a lot of the reason why she changes throughout the course of the series (and, frankly, why people find themselves disliking her in later episodes). Because she does get worked up and involved and compassionate about these cases and that sort of committment, constantly, will run you ragged and wear you down, unless you learn how now to care so deeply. But teaching yourself to detach and not care when that's not your natural state, so to speak, means that you're going to make huge, messy mistakes, screw up with people you really *do* care about (i.e. Rhys) because you haven't figured out where the line between engaged/detached is, and you're going to fall and have to pick yourself up a lot.